I believe I've already gone over these hands with Noonan, so Joe, I'd like to hear what you think about the following situations:
(all hands Villian and I have around $350 - $500 respectively, unless stated)
1. I am in the BB with A-Q with 4 other limpers. Flop comes Q-8-4 all hearts, and I have the A of hearts. SB checks and I lead out for $20 into ~$25 pot. Middle position calls and everyone else gets out of the way. Turn comes another 8 (Q-8-4-8). I lead out for $45 and Villian raises to $100 after thinking for a short while.
2. Again, I have A-Q in the SB with 3 other limpers. Flop comes down A-10-5 with two spades. I check, BB checks, middle position checks and cutoff throws in $25 very quickly. Seeing this, it is obvious that he is weak, so in order to maxmize value, I min raise to $50. Everyone else folds, and button calls quickly without thinking. Turn comes an offsuit J. I make it $70 to go and button thinks for a while and makes it $170 to go.
3. I am on the button! A solid player two to my right makes it $25 to go preflop. I look down at A-K and with position, I make it $75 to go. The BB, a very solid opponent, who smooth calls just about everything, smooth calls yet again (about $230 behind him) and the original raiser thinks and calls. Flop comes down K-8-6 with two hearts. Goes check-check to me and I make it $75 to go (I have about $250 left). The BB thinks and thinks, then calls again! Original raiser thinks and groans before throwing away. Turn comes a Q of hearts (3 hearts on board) and opponent max bets $150 (has around $80 behind him). I have the A of hearts....
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2 comments:
1) I think you are beat here but I think you have a chance of having the best hand. If he had a boat I don't see him raising here because theres really no value in it. He has you betting out and pretty much has the deck crushed so he would want any draw cards to come out. It seems most likely he has an 8. To answer your question, you are beat here, but I think theres some value in seeing a river and re-evaluating.
2) This is a tough situation in which almost no card that could come will improve your hand to where you're comfortable with it. I think because about half the cards in the deck beat can beat you in this situation you give the guy credit for a hand and props to him if he can pull the trigger like this on a draw.
3) Wow, these are all really tough situations. Now there are two things I would take into account in this situation. One would be how good the BB is. Is he capable of putting you on a hand like AK or big pair and then knowing that if a flush came he could make you throw it away? In other words did he think he could bluff you off of a good hand based on his reads of your hand and how he played against other opponents. Unfortunately even if he is capable of making this play he would have to be completely bluffing to make it. I don't know what he could have here that doesn't have you beat besides a bluff. Most likely a flopped set but I definately read him for being strong. I'm curious about this one. When I am stumped about a decision I usually fold because in most cases its the correct play. Obviously you have outs...if you feel like gambling I think call. You still might have the best hand.
On hand #1, I folded and showed. Opponent showed 2-3 hearts for low flush, which makes sense looking back on the hand. Noonan thinks I should have called and let a card come off to try and catch up, but I don't think there will be any card that catches me up that allows me to get any action, based on Villians holdings. There are 7 hearts, 2 eights, and 2 queens that will all win me the hand, giving me a roughly 25% chance to catch up. Based on the info I had, I felt folding was correct.
On #2, I was really confused as to what the hell my opponent had. I read him for weakness on the flop, and then he raises when a J hits. My thoughts were he either had the nutz or a complete bluff (or maybe A-J, but it seemed unlikely). Anyways, I folded and showed again, and he claimed to have K-Q, for a turned Broadway. Probably something to note, he was an old guy and had been playing pretty tight too, so all in all it wasn't too terribly tough of a decision.
On #3, I felt like gambling, so I called/put him all-in for $20 more. We didn't show and the river came a beautiful 4 of hearts giving me the nutz. I showed my cards and he winced with disgust as if I had outdrawn him, but he proceeded to throw his cards into the muck. Usually, when someone outdraws you in an all-in situation like that, they show their cards in order to get some compassion from the rest of the table as to how unlucky they got, but by not showing, I have reason to believe I might have been good the whole way. He claimed to have trips, but by the way the hand was played out, I find that somewhat hard to believe. Why call a raise and reraise OOP with pocket 6's or 8's against possibly two opponents? He seemed like a much better player than that, so I was fairly perplexed. KK MIGHT have made sense, but apparently the other guy threw away A-K, so KK wouldn't be possible in that deck. Oh well....pretty river nonetheless, feels good to hit a card like that....
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