Monday, April 30, 2007

Online stats

Last night I finally stumbled across the program Poker Tracker which I have been meaning to look in to for years. I have always played Bodog and it didn't support the site but now that I'm on Full Tilt I can use it. Basically Poker Tracker keeps track of everything that goes on at the table and then conveniently keeps a huge database of every hand you've seen or played in. It starts to categorize players based on certain statistics that they show including money voluntarily put into the pot, pre flop raise %, agression ((% raise + % bet)/ %call). Theres a plethora of categories but ultimately you end up with a pretty good picture of what kind of player you are against. I even downloaded a helper program that puts icons on the players I'm playing with to show (such as a rock, eagle (for tight agressive), fish, etc). The program lays all the stats and a players tendencies right on the actual table.

All of this probably sounds technical but it is really not. Poker is like many other things in life where you can side with the statistics or you can go with your instinct. The more I played with Poker Tracker the more I found myself not paying attention to people at the tables because the program was doing it for me. After a couple rounds of blinds (or previous sessions with the same players), my screen was filled up with rocks, eagles and other icons telling me the tendencies of every player at the table. This is so helpful that I have already seen an increase in my results but I feel like part of the game is lost. What are your thoughts on this? Have you heard about these programs? Part of me feels like the game is about people but the other part thinks that taking any advantage possible (aside from cheating) is the survival of the fittest.

2 comments:

Max Holley said...

I bought this program a while back, but I was an idiot and never really figured out how to use it correctly. (Now that I think about it, maybe I only downloaded the demo?) It sounds like you've got it down though and its helping you tons. In my opinion, I feel something like this is good for an online player like yourself who plays multiple tables at once. When your playing 3-4 tables at a time, it can be hard to peg people down on a certain strategy, so this sounds like a helpful tool to possess. However, I don't think this software would be very helpful when your are only playing one table at a time since it cannot take into account things like when opponents change gears, etc. When only playing a single table, you can focus more and get a better feel for the players better than any computer program can. Robots can only take into account the mathematics of a play, never the psychology. Players at lower limits probably don't do a whole lot of gear changing, so it may not be that much of a negative afterall, but still something to consider. It would be interesting to compare your sessions from using the software to your sessions pre-software. If there is a noticable difference, then you'll be able to determine whether or not this is a good device.

JoeRo said...

Max, I really agree but online you rarely meet players who can change gears or who are doing other things than playing their cards. Live and one table are a whole other game. Sometimes I can make more at one table than I can multi tabling just because of a perfect combination of the type of players and cards/plays going my way. I know that most of my posts have been about online hands and thats just because I can't seem to break the live game (-$1200 swing the last 6 sessions). Online however has been kind to me to the point where it seems I'll make it online and lose it live. Anyway I think this is a really good tool and I will continue to use the software (only for full ring cash games never for tournaments or 6 handed). I suggest you try it out or if you need help getting to know the basics I can get you started.